Comments on: Theory of Holidays http://dav.sadowl.com/archives/25/ Now with 54% more statistics. Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:27:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: (_)_)======D http://dav.sadowl.com/archives/25/comment-page-1/#comment-65 (_)_)======D Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:38:22 +0000 http://dav.rivercityransomtactics.com/?p=25#comment-65 Plus you can't help to HATE HATE HATE that whole "goodwill towards men" part of Christmas that a lot of people have removed entirely from the context of virginal births. Nobody evangelizes more than an atheist. Plus you can’t help to HATE HATE HATE that whole “goodwill towards men” part of Christmas that a lot of people have removed entirely from the context of virginal births.

Nobody evangelizes more than an atheist.

]]> By: Erik http://dav.sadowl.com/archives/25/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Erik Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:52:41 +0000 http://dav.rivercityransomtactics.com/?p=25#comment-64 And what's the deal with all these pagans forcing Halloween on me? Take your vigrin sacrificing beliefs somewhere else, pal! And what’s the deal with all these pagans forcing Halloween on me? Take your vigrin sacrificing beliefs somewhere else, pal!

]]> By: Emily http://dav.sadowl.com/archives/25/comment-page-1/#comment-63 Emily Thu, 08 Dec 2005 23:58:45 +0000 http://dav.rivercityransomtactics.com/?p=25#comment-63 I agree with Matt's comment above. And the "Christmas" that our family celebrates is definitely cultural, not religious. We decorate a tree and visit with family but we've never once gone to a midnight mass or been forced to learn about biblical figures. If you will remember, our family tradition when we were younger was to read The Night Before Christmas on Christmas Eve, which had everything to do with gifts and nothing to do with religion. But Dave, what I don't understand is why you would be upset about this. On a national level, what Christmas means for you is that you get time off from school/work and one day you will realize that leaving work early "to beat the crowds to go Christmas shopping" is a commonly accepted excuse by your employer.... On the Dav level, what this means to you is that you get to eat perogie and receive gifts, while all the time NOT being subjected to any religious activities. Therefore, Christmas seems purely beneficial to you. That being said, what do you want this year....? A bible and naitivity set? I thought so..... ;-) I agree with Matt’s comment above. And the “Christmas” that our family celebrates is definitely cultural, not religious. We decorate a tree and visit with family but we’ve never once gone to a midnight mass or been forced to learn about biblical figures. If you will remember, our family tradition when we were younger was to read The Night Before Christmas on Christmas Eve, which had everything to do with gifts and nothing to do with religion.

But Dave, what I don’t understand is why you would be upset about this. On a national level, what Christmas means for you is that you get time off from school/work and one day you will realize that leaving work early “to beat the crowds to go Christmas shopping” is a commonly accepted excuse by your employer…. On the Dav level, what this means to you is that you get to eat perogie and receive gifts, while all the time NOT being subjected to any religious activities. Therefore, Christmas seems purely beneficial to you. That being said, what do you want this year….? A bible and naitivity set? I thought so….. ;-)

]]> By: Matt Garber http://dav.sadowl.com/archives/25/comment-page-1/#comment-62 Matt Garber Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:29:29 +0000 http://dav.rivercityransomtactics.com/?p=25#comment-62 I would argue that Christmas is actually two seperate holidays, a cultural one and a religious one, which occur on the same day. The religious part is all observing the birth of the savior of a religion on a day that happens to coincide with the winter solstice. Within this, you've got all your midnight candle services, your wisemen, miraculous virgin births, and whatnot. The other one, with all the eggnog, gift-giving, and pine trees is much more recent, and of a more secular bent. The presents, for example, really didn't get going until the victorians started hanging small gifts in the tree, and that evolved over time into today's consumerist orgy. This newer event really has jack all to do with babies mysteriously appearing in women's vaginas, and I think should be considered seperatley. I would argue that Christmas is actually two seperate holidays, a cultural one and a religious one, which occur on the same day. The religious part is all observing the birth of the savior of a religion on a day that happens to coincide with the winter solstice. Within this, you’ve got all your midnight candle services, your wisemen, miraculous virgin births, and whatnot.

The other one, with all the eggnog, gift-giving, and pine trees is much more recent, and of a more secular bent. The presents, for example, really didn’t get going until the victorians started hanging small gifts in the tree, and that evolved over time into today’s consumerist orgy. This newer event really has jack all to do with babies mysteriously appearing in women’s vaginas, and I think should be considered seperatley.

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